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Just doing a little auditing of "confirmed" shows to make sure updates didn't get missed, or things weren't accidentally marked confirmed.

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These three are 'Scream' shows - I know Dayle Gloria helped w/ info on those, but do we have anything to 'show' for them being confirmed?

August 22, 1986 - Scream at the Embassy Hotel, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... ourID=1519

November 08, 1986 - Scream at the Embassy Hotel, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=414

September 05, 1987 - Scream at the Park Plaza Hotel, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=393

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Incomplete/Questionable Sources:

September 21, 1986 - L.A. Street Scene, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=411
-> an LA Times article is mentioned, but we don't have it

August 21, 1990 - Brixton Academy, London, England
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=225
-> is Saga of a Hypster a reliable enough source, either way we should at least note the page number from the book of where this is confirmed

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We've got nothing on these next 3:

November 04, 1990 - Celebrity Theatre, Phoenix, AZ
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=247

October 24, 1988 - Center Stage Theatre, Atlanta, GA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... ourID=1518

January 22, 1987 - Cooperage Hall, University of California Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=371
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helicine wrote:Just doing a little auditing of "confirmed" shows to make sure updates didn't get missed, or things weren't accidentally marked confirmed.

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These three are 'Scream' shows - I know Dayle Gloria helped w/ info on those, but do we have anything to 'show' for them being confirmed?

August 22, 1986 - Scream at the Embassy Hotel, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... ourID=1519

November 08, 1986 - Scream at the Embassy Hotel, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=414

September 05, 1987 - Scream at the Park Plaza Hotel, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=393

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Well I got you confirmation from Dayle Gloria who booked the shows, I don't know what more you want? :lol:
Seriously though I think Dayle's records should be good enough for confirmation in this instance.
When I talked to her she told me she had all the dates she booked marked in her calendar.
She gave me a long list of shows all of which came from her calendars.
If you want to take a trip down memory lane click here.

I guess ideally posters, flyers, or newsprint would show up but until they do I think confirmation by the person that booked the shows should do.

You can mark them as unconfirmed if you feel otherwise.
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helicine wrote:Incomplete/Questionable Sources:

September 21, 1986 - L.A. Street Scene, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=411
-> an LA Times article is mentioned, but we don't have it

August 21, 1990 - Brixton Academy, London, England
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=225
-> is Saga of a Hypster a reliable enough source, either way we should at least note the page number from the book of where this is confirmed

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There are four articles on page one of the "Gig Listing" thread pertaining to the 9/21/86 show.
The fourth confirms the show and gives Jane's set time.
I posted them in November of 2008.
I guess you just missed them back then and I forgot about them too. :lol:

I do not list 8/21/90 as confirmed on my list because I don't think Dave Thompson's book is good enough confirmation.

I have no idea how it got confirmed status on the site but it wasn't me. :P

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helicine wrote:We've got nothing on these next 3:

January 22, 1987 - Cooperage Hall, University of California Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=371
We link to intertwoven's site for confirmation on this one.

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I don't think I have anything else on it but I'll look around.
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helicine wrote:
We've got nothing on these next 3:

October 24, 1988 - Center Stage Theatre, Atlanta, GA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... ourID=1518
I posted this some time ago but here it is again.
The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution

September 30, 1988

Night Beat

Malone, Phillips to Give It a Go as Twosome?
Author: DEVAULT, RUSS; Russ DeVault Popular Music Critic STAFF

Article Text:

A musical pairing that could have long-term potential will be tested Saturday when vocalist-songwriter Michelle Malone and guitarist Glenn Phillips perform together at the Colorbox club (sets at 11 p.m. and 1 a.m., $4, 1040 North Highland Ave. 874-3082).

At this point, neither Atlanta rock musician will say that anything more than one night of entertainment is being considered. Miss Malone, who displayed considerable talent as a songwriter and vocalist earlier this year on her independently released "New Experience" debut album, already has a band, Drag the River, but frequently works clubs with only her guitar for accompaniment.

Their sets at the Colorbox will feature songs written by Miss Malone, according to Mr. Phillips. A guitarist with wide-ranging talent, he has recorded seven albums during a 20-year career marked by his refusal to follow record companies' advice to add a vocalist to his band.

"We just want to see how it goes," Mr. Phillips says. He agreed it would be interesting to hear Miss Malone sing with his band when it plays the Town Cinema Showcase in Avondale Estates on Oct. 7-8, but he said he had not discussed that possibility with Miss Malone.

TIX 'N' TIMES: Luther Vandross and Anita Baker, who this week opened a tour consisting primarily of multiple dates in arenas, will sing at The Omni on Nov. 10. Tickets will go on sale at 8 a.m. Monday at SEATS outlets with demand expected to justify a second show. Both vocalists are genuine headliners, which explains why tickets are $25. Information: 577-9600. . . . Robert Plant, the voice of the late Led Zeppelin, resumes his Non Stop Go solo tour next week with a three-month schedule that includes a stop at The Omni on Nov. 7. Tickets, which are $18.50, will go on sale at 9 a.m. Saturday at SEATS outlets. Information: 577-9600. . . . Would-be astronaut John Denver will sing old hits and songs from his new "Higher Ground" album Nov. 2 at the Fox Theatre. Tickets will go on sale at 10 a.m. Saturday at SEATS outlets and the Fox box office. $22.50. Information: 881-1977. . . . Iggy Pop, whose current album is "Instinct," will play Center Stage Theatre on Oct. 24. The Ramones are opening some shows for the Ig, but Jane's Addiction is scheduled for Atlanta. Tickets will go on sale at 10 a.m. Saturday at SEATS outlets and the Center Stage box office. Information: 873-2500. . . . Ladysmith Black Mambazo, a Grammy winner this year for its "Shak a Zulu" album, is touring to push its new a cappella "Journey of Dreams" LP and is scheduled Nov. 25 at Center Stage Theatre. Tickets will be $15.50 when they go on sale Oct. 14 at SEATS outlets and the theater box office. $15.50. Also coming to the Cent er Stage are Canadian singer Leonard Cohen (Nov. 2, $15) and Queen Ida and the Bon Temps Zydeco Band (Nov. 11, $11 advance and $12 the day of the show). Tickets for those two concerts will go on sale Friday, Oct. 7. Information: 873-2500. . . . Steve Gilette, whose songwriting credits include "Bed of Roses," "Crying Don't Even Come Close" and the folk favorite "Darcy Farrow," will sing and play guitar Sunday at Blind Willie's. Atlanta's Michael Catalano will open at 9:30 p.m. $5. Information: 873-258 3. . . . Some $12.50 seats remain for the Randy Travis-Gene Watson shows at 7:30 and 10:30 p.m. Friday at Concerts in the Country-Lanierland, but Saturday's two performances are officially sold out. Standing-room tickets will be sold for $7 Saturday, and they will be offered Friday if needed. Information: 681-1596. . . . The Wailers return to the Metroplex on Friday with Atlanta's Cool Joe opening. Late, most likely. $10. Information: 523-1468. . . . Van Halen opens its indoor tour Friday at Lexington, Ky., and will rock The Omni on Monday. $18.50. Information: 577-9600. . . . Expect to see Rod Stewart kicking soccer balls from the stage and being pelted with roses and lingerie when he sings at 8 p.m. Thursday at The Omni. An Atlanta pop-music fan with catholic taste and little tolerance for wimpy concerts saw him twice in the past week and called both shows delightful entertainment. $18.50. Information: 577-9600. . . . Tickets remain for K.D. Lang's concerts at 9 p.m. Friday and 8 p.m. Saturday at Cen ter Stage Theatre. $13.50. Information: 873-2500. . . . Sponsors report about 15 local acts have entered the Rappers' Rap Off at 5 p.m. Thursday at the Atlanta Civic Center. The winner gets a new Yugo. Free. Information: 266-8223. . . . John McCutcheon, a favorite of local folk music fans, will sing at 3 and 8 p.m. Oct. 29 at the Unitarian Universalist Congregation. Tickets are $9 in advance and $11 at the door for the second show and $5 for adults and $3 for children for the first show. The afternoon performance will be for kids, with sing-alongs and story-songs. Information: 874-2232. . . . "The Heart Attack Tour" is what Mylon LeFevre and his Broken Heart band are calling the shows they are doing with White Heart. The Christian rockers hit the Civi c Center on Oct. 15. $10.50 advance and $12 at the door. Information: 262-6444. . . . A&M Records reports Amy Grant, whose fall tou

NOTES 'N' NOTIONS: David Leonard, with help from several collaborators, has won first and second place in the Atlanta Songwriters Association's annual competition. "You Can't Outrun the Moon," co-written with Annette Cotter, won the top prize, while "Trashman," created with assistance from A.D. Morris and Lloyd Tyler, took second place. "Who the Singer's Singing To" by Joey Halstead and Phil Thomson was the third-place entry; Loren Casell's "One Love" finished fourth. . . . Ultrahigh energy was the order of the night during Atlanta debut concerts this week by rock vocalist Melissa Etheridge and country music singer Becky Hobbs. Miss Etheridge savagely attacked her guitar at Center Stage Theatre, while Miss Hobbs showed a crowd at Miss Kitty's that she subscribes to the Jerry Lee Lewis school of keyboard pounding. Both offered very accessible original songs. . . . Michael Jackson's publicists report his tour, which returned from E urope to the United States this week for 27 concerts in eight cities (not including Atlanta), has drawn 2.5 million people since May 23. What they don't add is that news agencies reported "several thousand" fans were injured when about 25,000 tried to crash the gates during his show for about 125,000 at the Aintree Racecourse, Liverpool, England, on Sept. 11. . . . Sunday's Hunger Walk and benefit concert at Rupert's club raised about $150,000 for the Atlanta Community Food Bank. The total is expected to be increased significantly by phone-in pledges when WSB/Channel 2 airs a special focused on the two events later this month. John Schneider, erstwhile country star, made his debut as a rock 'n' roll singer during the show at Rupert's, but overwhelmed no one. . . . The Miller Genuine Draft Brand Network is looking for acts for its 7-year-old sponsorship program, which includes a chance to appear in national radio and television commercials. Hopefuls can send tapes and information to Gary Reynolds & Associates, 16535 W. Bluemound Road, Brookf
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helicine wrote:We've got nothing on these next 3:

November 04, 1990 - Celebrity Theatre, Phoenix, AZ
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=247
Here's another article that i posted a long time ago.

It's a great read btw. :cool:
Phoenix New Times

THE PETER PRINCIPLE PERRY FARRELL OF JANE'S ADDICTION JUST MIGHT BE ROCK'S GREATEST EXHIBITIONIST

By David Koen
Published on October 31, 1990

It's easy, at first, to like, even admire Jane's Addiction singer Perry Farrell. Ever since JA made its way onto a major label in 1988, he's shown off a nasally sonic voice that hits you in the heart and solar plexus at the same time. And he's one of rock's better philosophers--equal parts optimist, pessimist, idealist and nihilist. Better yet, he's not shy about hoisting his advertisements for love and anarchy up the flagpole in the best tradition of enigmatic, poetic lyrics. Like Dylan, Morrison, Bono, and Stipe before him, he's hailed both by fans who can relate to what he's singing about and by those who have no idea what the heck he's doing.

Farrell's great to look at, too, with green surfer dreads, pomo thrift clothes adorning his skinny body, a ring hanging between his nostrils and the spookiest eyes since Johnny Rotten bugging out of his head. Better, he just might be rock 'n' roll's greatest exhibitionist. Farrell has proudly gotten naked to adoring fans on at least two occasions--in a video and on the cover of his band's new album Ritual de lo Habitual.

What's more, Farrell's relationship with girlfriend Casey Niccoli is, by all accounts, beautiful. And he doesn't care who knows it. How deep is their love? Perry made a sculpture of her as naked Siamese twins, lit it on fire, and used the image for the cover of Jane's Addiction's first album for Warner Bros., Nothing's Shocking. He sculpted her into a nude again for the Ritual cover, along with unclothed images of himself and a mysterious m enage a trois-ee named Xiola Blue. (Farrell maintains a remarkably healthy line on sexuality. He says in a press release, "Nobody should feel ashamed or dumb, but feel love and honesty, bisexuality, homosexuality, heterosexuality, anything. If I can make that cool, I would feel like a champ.")

Speaking of Jane's Addiction's album covers, Perry and his group are one of the more likable outfits to challenge First Amendment bashers. Nudity, not 2 Live Crew-style misogyny, is the group's "crime." Some record store owners have blushed at the naked figures on JA's album covers and refused to sell the band's recordings. Perry's response in the Ritual liner notes: "I feel more shame as a man watching a quick-mart being built."

No doubt Farrell will go down as rock's goofiest punk-hippie, a singer given alternately to grandiloquent philosophizing and exposing himself. Jane's Addiction's latest album, for instance, is a heckuva slab, one of the best of this year or any in the postpunk era. JA isn't one of those groundbreaking groups that changes the course of musical history forever, mind you. But Ritual de lo Habitual sure is a nice album to listen to while we wait for the next genius over the horizon to dump a motherlode. Jane's Addiction knows its limitations and takes them to the extreme. They're either today's loudest alternative group or this epoch's most experimental metal band. Guitarist David Navarro is just as noisy, but a lot more romantic than his speed-metal roots might indicate. His work on Ritual is as challenging as it is digestible, though none of his leads tops the first freak-out solo on Nothing's Shocking's "Ocean Size." Rhythm-meisters Eric A. (bass) and Stephen Perkins (drums) know when to beat their chests if the group is in that metal mood and how to turn a corner on a dime when JA grooves on one of its oft-changing tempos.

A run-through of the good stuff on this most delicious dish: "Stop!" starts the record with start 'n' stop chunks of fist-raising metal. "No One's Leaving" is a funky merry-go-round of a song, much more elastic than Nothing's Shocking's "Idiots Rule." "Obvious" ventures not unconfidently into Led Zeppelin (a band whose legacy JA brings to the Nineties), almost-epic keyboard territory. "Been Caught Stealing" boogies sonically. The saga-length "Three Days" lasts almost as along as its title implies, but if it's not alternative radio's answer to "Stairway to Heaven," nothing is. "Of Course," a Gypsy-beat trance that wouldn't sound out of place on a Camper Van Beethoven album, is groovy only if you laugh at it. Roll your eyes, though, if you think the band's taking itself seriously here. And whether the tone is supposed to be solemn or kooky seems to be entirely up to the individual. "Classic Girl" wraps up the album like a pastel steam bath, cleansing the air with wave after wave of soothing guitar.

Then there are two slices of Limburger cheese. You wait and wait for a tasty hook to bite into "Ain't No Right," and it just never shows up. But if Jane's Addiction can underachieve, it can also swing way too far in the opposite direction. "Then She Did . . . " is just ugly, Seventies classical-rock (did someone say Yes?) on which Jane's Addiction falls off the saddle and gets dragged around mercilessly until the song stops.

But back to Perry. Ritual's lyrics are enough to indicate that Farrell is as good as anyone at reminding you just how completely fucked up the world is--and of a thing called hope. In "Stop!" Farrell howls like a preacher standing on the edge of Armageddon: "Save the complaints for a party conversation/The world is loaded, it's lit to pop/And nobody is gonna stop." Words to ponder while some world leaders are figuring out the exchange rate of blood and oil.

If you think that's pessimistic, though, scan the lyrics to "Of Course": "When I was a boy, my big brother held on to my hands/Then he made me slap my own face/I looked up to him then, and still do/He was trying to teach me something/Now I know what it was!" Scoot over, Aesop.

This stuff is thrillingly odd, as is what might be rock's first ode to kleptomania, "Been Caught Stealing," a current alternative-radio hit. If the PMRC ever mails the lyrics to state Senator Jan Brewer, she'll add thievery to the list of things like bestiality that you can't sing about.

Still, it's easy to believe Farrell when he's being sincere. "No One's Leaving" lets love rule over miscegenation in a way that might even make Chuck D smile: "My sister and her boyfriend slept in the park/She had to leave home 'cause he was dark/Now they parade around in New York with a baby boy/He's gorgeous!"

Just when you're starting to dust off the phrase "the new Dylan," though, Farrell dribbles out a line or two like Greg Louganis bumping his head on the diving board. For example, the lyrics of "Three Days" sound like something Charlton Heston might've uttered in The Ten Commandments.

And what can you say about Farrell's extracultural dabblings? Paul Simon, David Byrne, and Sting might have a fourth for bridge if the singer keeps up his pasty-white anthropological co-opting. Besides going way overboard on "Of Course," Farrell decks out the cover of Ritual with Santaria-derived religious objects and gets bristlingly defensive about his neo-African look in "No One's Leaving": "I'm a white dread--I'm a white dread, so?/I'm a got a ring and I hang it from my nose/Got a little game and I take it to the park/I don't care who plays as long as the game is on."

If that's just a little tough to stomach, don't read this essay from Ritual's liner notes: "I used to wish sometimes that I was a black man. I listened to the way black men spoke when they spoke about freedom, justice and human rights. And in the way they spoke, I was sure they were speaking the truth. At the same time, there was a faint buzz spreading to all of us, the suggestion that the black man was not to be treated equally. For this I envied the black man because it gave him a passion for his living and a cause to die for."

Farrell goes on to say a similar word about his former wish to be a woman, then concludes, "I have grown to become proud of myself. I have aligned with all those who have been stung by suppression."

It's this kind of stuff that leads critics to call Farrell and his quartet "great, but full of shit" and "talented assholes."

And "full of shit" is the only thing that can be said about Farrell's decision to design a second cover that would co-exist with the Ritual's controversial original jacket when some Warner Bros. prudes said uh-uh to the first. The goody-goody version features a white background with the First Amendment printed on it. Farrell rationalizes this way in a press release: "I will never compromise, ever. I will only extend. I will only do something additional."

Still, you can't blow off Farrell for eyebrow-raising comments or being a backpedaling businessman. We need him--to make us laugh, to entertain us, spar with our consciences and, yes, even to show us his ding-a-ling once in a while.

Jane's Addiction will perform at Celebrity Theatre on Sunday, November 4. Showtime is 7:30 p.m.


Farrell will go down as rock's goofiest punk-hippie, a singer given alternately to grandiloquent philosophizing and exposing himself. The lyrics to "Three Days" sound like something Charlton Heston might've uttered in The Ten Commandments.


JA isn't one of those groups that changes the course of musical history. But it's sure nice to listen to while we wait for the next genius over the horizon.
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Handsome Mike wrote:I do not list 8/21/90 as confirmed on my list because I don't think Dave Thompson's book is good enough confirmation.

I have no idea how it got confirmed status on the site but it wasn't me. :P
:lol: doesn't matter who did it, just auditing stuff to fix things like that :thumb:
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Handsome Mike wrote:There are four articles on page one of the "Gig Listing" thread pertaining to the 9/21/86 show.
The fourth confirms the show and gives Jane's set time.
I posted them in November of 2008.
I guess you just missed them back then and I forgot about them too. :lol:
I added in the article that confirms JA, but skipped the other 3 since they didn't actually mention Jane's :noclue:
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Handsome Mike wrote:
helicine wrote:We've got nothing on these next 3:

January 22, 1987 - Cooperage Hall, University of California Los Angeles, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=371
We link to intertwoven's site for confirmation on this one.

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I don't think I have anything else on it but I'll look around.
okay - so it sounds like that excerpt is likey form The Daily Bruin, and the author is Kurt Hueg. But we have no date for the review (probably safe to assume it was 1/23/87) - so I'm not quite sure that's really enough to leave this as confirmed. Thoughts?
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here is one more:

September 25, 1991 - Aloha Tower, Honolulu, HI
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=222

I've marked that as unconfirmed since a quick search didn't turn up anything I've missed

That takes us through 1991 - by 97, the community at-large started keeping track of the shows, and most show dates were pulled from reputable sources... of course we don't have ephemera for all of those

There are actually only 2 post 91 JA dates not marked as confirmed, the Amoeba Music concert in 2002 and a canceled gig in Austria where JA was supposedly to play a festival. Chase A dug that date up.
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