Irresistible Force - Song Meaning from Perry

[shadow]

Yes it's true Perry has a wild imagination, THANK GOD! Are his ideas any more fantastic than the idea that there is a man in the sky judging you, or that we are all here because of a random big explosion? Its ALL theory and conjecture from the guy on the corner talking to himself to Steven Hawking. I happen to think that Perry's lyric is a great piece of modern mythology, and if you peak at early Christian and Jewish thinking you'll see that his wild crazy ideas aren't so new, these ideas have been around for thousands of years.

P.S. Can't say I like the song much though.

i have to agree with you, i guess this is nothing new for Perry, some of his lyrics such as Ted just admit it "sex is violent" has relevance with the myth of creation and those apocalyptic visions whose are typical in the religious literatures

I think for example to the song Stop and to its "hurrah....and the water will run" and i guess there's no more distance between his previous poetic and the general meaning who has been given to the Irresistible force, today.

Other song such as Three days shows the personal way to feel religion and the particular mystic approach Perry has always had with life

What Jasper said is interesting but it makes no sense to me althought if it has a link with the topic and the meanings of the song.

[Jasper]

I'm talking about fantasy/myth vs. fact, and the way that Perry confuses them. I have no argument at all with fantasy/myth being the basis for art, only with it being confused with fact.

Thank you and goodnight.

[shadow]

yes of course Jasper, yours telling was very good. any problem with the myth, fact and fantasy. just a little out of topic! Perry, explaining the meaning of the song, didn't say: I'm a god and this is the only fact about earth, man, soul, woman, flower, dog, cat. Also he didn't say: I'm a scientist and everything i tell about earth and man is true like the words of god; Or: Irresistible force lyrics are the new Old testament and the evolution of big bang theory. He simply said which inspired him and how he did to wrote a song (Combining the science of the big bang, and the theology of the Old Testament) clarifying the wrong interpretation by the press and saying: "Usually I wouldn't discuss it- I'd prefer to leave it up to the interpretation of the listener"

this is artistic loyalty, in my personal...

[zalice]

I love you all !!! I just like to stir the pot. It tends to make the stew more tasty!

[TrevorAyer]

sorry to say but perrys explaination is b.s. it's not about creation and all that .. or maybe it is a little .. he just does not want u thinking its about janes addiction selling out .. which it is .. but u see his explaination is not meant to explain .. but rather divert from what people have already concluded .. janes is a big business now .. a galaxy merger with 3d phones .. the irresistable force is money and the immovable object was janes integrity ... yay!

[helicine]

sorry to say but perrys explaination is b.s. it's not about creation and all that .. or maybe it is a little .. he just does not want u thinking its about janes addiction selling out .. which it is .. but u see his explaination is not meant to explain .. but rather divert from what people have already concluded .. janes is a big business now .. a galaxy merger with 3d phones .. the irresistable force is money and the immovable object was janes integrity ... yay!

[shadow]

ok trevor, maybe you're right, if we want to be rigorous, "business" hasn't a great literary significance but at this point my question is.....what drives an artist like Perry to write a song like this, with joking intention, to be expressly misunderstood and misjudged by others? especially by his old fans like us? and what forces the new janes fans to being attracted by the new Jane's Addiction album? and this stupid way to write a song? so ambiguos, i don't really know. and I cant even imagine if what you say has some truth or not...

[Jasper]

yes of course Jasper, yours telling was very good. any problem with the myth, fact and fantasy. just a little out of topic! Perry, explaining the meaning of the song, didn't say: I'm a god and this is the only fact about earth, man, soul, woman, flower, dog, cat. Also he didn't say: I'm a scientist and everything i tell about earth and man is true like the words of god; Or: Irresistible force lyrics are the new Old testament and the evolution of big bang theory. He simply said which inspired him and how he did to wrote a song (Combining the science of the big bang, and the theology of the Old Testament) clarifying the wrong interpretation by the press and saying: "Usually I wouldn't discuss it- I'd prefer to leave it up to the interpretation of the listener"

this is artistic loyalty, in my personal...

I understand artistic vision, and I completely accept the lyrics that way. Nevertheless, when matter-of-fact statements are made as if they're factual, I take them the way that they're stated.

Perry starts out OK, but he gets a little iffy in the course of using the words "theory" and "science." Then he gets very matter-of-fact and tells us that he knows of "no life that was ever created without male-female union." Right there he's clearly talking about his actual understanding of biology, not just song lyrics, and since there are many forms of life created without make-to-female union, it's worth pointing out that he's very mistaken.

Perry follows that last line up by simply stating that "A sexual explosion caused the creation of our galaxy, and all earthly life." Taken with the preceding sentence, it gets increasingly difficult to believe that he's speaking strictly about the world that exists only within the song.

Listening to Perry over the years, there have been no shortage of charming pseudo-scientific ideas stated as if they are factual, and the things he's saying here are not being said in a vacuum. These things fit in with the general tradition of charming nonsense falling from the mouth of Perry Farrell. It's part of what makes him who he is. It's part of what gives him his unusual charisma. I know this, and I accept it all as part of the PF artistic experience. Nonetheless, I don't allow these whimsical artistic notions to become tangled with fact.

[shadow]

Jasper in the way you talk seems you saw a video clip where Perry said these words. it seems also that you analyzed his expression when he was saying these words. Yours telling, as i said, is really good and reasonable but some words sounds as if they had been told in a court or in a police district. We, in italy, simply say "processo agli intenti", and for the thruth it is as if I was doing it to you LOL.......but no problem with me, just wanting to write something. nothing's really important.