Why did Song Yet to Be Sung and Ultrapayload fail?

Lindsay · Post by **Lindsay** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:36 pm

Perry Farrell, with Jane's Addiction and Porno For Pyros, made a series of albums that comfortably fit into the college/alternative/rock format and then...**comes to a abrupt halt**...made an electronica album.
Appears there's an unwritten law somewhere that that's a major no-no!

Post by **Mike** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:10 pm

Lots of good replies and I think it's a little of each that contributes.

It's very difficult for me to compare Satellite Party and for that matter SYTBS to Jane's.
Porno For Pyros too for that matter.

They're all very different with the only constant being Perry's vocals.

Perhaps the biggest reason is the different styles of music.

I don't know.

Perry sounds as good as ever but...

nestos · Post by **nestos** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:05 am

Nothing's Shocking wrote:Lots of good replies and I think it's a little of each that contributes.

It's very difficult for me to compare Satellite Party and for that matter SYTBS to Jane's.
Porno For Pyros too for that matter.

They're all very different with the only constant being Perry's vocals.

Perhaps the biggest reason is the different styles of music.

I don't know.

Perry sounds as good as ever but...

Did Perry ever reach high sales except during JA's era(s) ? I guess he didn't

Alternative music + artistic freedom = no money rain

Post by **hydro** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:05 am

I think im happy about low record sales.to me that means perrys NOT a sell out.wasnt that a big no no back in the day when we were all a bunch of young freaky punk kids.we wanted to keep our music to ourselfs,the underground scene.
or mabey i just want to keep perry to myself

but anyway it was like the first 2 lollas seemed like home there was nothing but the freakest kids all coming together and feeling like they belonged to an alternative community then by the 3rd lolla it had become sooo mainstream ill never forget sitting on the field looking around at all the stupid jocks and preppy girls all prettyed up trying to run around and dance and mosh and act like sluts.I remember thinking they dont have a clue who perry farrell is what in the fuck are they doing here.so at that point i felt something that was so special to me and my fellow freaks had been takin away from us it had gone mainstream and i didnt want anything to do with it.
so i think if perrys music was sold to every tom dick and harry then it just wouldnt seem as special to me anymore.
i guess im selfish when it comes to my perry

StickyFingers · Post by **StickyFingers** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:33 pm

I think Perry chose to kept a low profile in his career.

He broke up Jane's in their up at the peak of the popularity and while Nirvana,RATM, Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots were top ten he formed P4P that kept distance from grunge movement.

He was founder of Lolla and friend alot of musician, he could easily join a "supergroup" and get 1000x famous (see Navarro, joinin RHCP...) .

Again, when reunited Jane's (97) and was in everybody's mouth, his next step was djing under unknown alias (dj peretz) with few technical skins in some small techno clubs and wait till 2001 for SYTBS....

I'm with Hydro, i still like Perry because he has a peripheral media coverage

Shroomy · Post by **Shroomy** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:20 pm

Mainstream rock radio embraced Strays in 2003

and almost totally rejected Payloaded in 2007. The songs Hard life and Celebrate sounded like they were radio friendly and written specifically for rock radio.

StickyFingers · Post by **StickyFingers** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:45 am

Right man. Martyn fired

and Bob Ezrin producing and mixing the songs

... Someone wanted Jane's to have a larger audience and become an fm-rock band.
Luckly they failed to hit the spot.

Anyway I'm not sure Hard life and Celebrate were "written specifically for rock radio".....

Post by **hydro** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:49 am

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Shroomy · Post by **Shroomy** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:56 pm

But how does a band make it without rock radio or college radio playing there songs on regular rotation? Internet promotion by itself is not enough to launch a succesful tour and sell cds and itunes downloads.

StickyFingers · Post by **StickyFingers** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:15 pm

If a band is really, really talented, and their shows are a force of nature, something good will happen to them for sure, internet or not.

Every legendary rock band is a legendary live act