Awe shit I went back and reread your post and I'm sorry but I totally missed your Ocean Size comment.TrevorAyer wrote:hi
mike the song "ocean size" on "nothings shocking" is the example i cited regarding daves solo style but i will say again .. i like a lot of what dave does but some of it not so much.
Not that I agree with it but at least now I know what you mean.
See I like the '80s metal.TrevorAyer wrote:as for rhandy roadshe is ok .. i liked some of those ozzy years but compared to tony iomi on say "supernaut" now there is a song i cant get enough of ... first 4 black sabbath records sound great ... i never got into the 80's METAL sound tho i respect van halen and randy and a few bands that embrace the metal sound. i like the old classic metal sound of sabbath and zep and i like raw stuff like the stooges and i really love old black flag dead kennedys misfits the cure .. i think that is why i love janes boots much more than the actual records they are raw distorted in yer face and i dont have to cringe at the over compressed studio production
ex. aint no right live b-side on classic girl and live and rare blows the ritual version out of the water .. but that is just my taste
I'm a huge fan of Ozzy's solo stuff with Randy, Iron Maiden, The Scorpions, etc.
I guess that's why I like this aspect of Dave's playing and you don't?
Porno For Pyros is in some ways such a different animal when compared to Jane's.TrevorAyer wrote:pyros was a shocker production wise simply because it was such a different sound from the start ... the big complaint was "where is the bass?" but i also heard pete say he cried after the first record cuz it sounded exactly the way he wanted it to for the first time in his recording history and stephen told me that he loved the drum sound on pyros much much more than what jerdan did with the janes records .. pyros was just more real sounding as far as instruments go ... kinda like the xxx record was
i love pete @ perrypalooza during meija he flubs a lil trying to get his guitar chord back in the jack during meija then to compensate he totally rocks it out .. and the dynamic of the acoustic shows never seems to disappoint .. no bass player just congas pete and perry and still it sounds full and he even manages a few guitar solos ..
Yeah sure you've got Perry wailing on both but to me at least that's where the comparison ends.
They went into it wanting to create a different sound and for my money they succeeded for many of the reasons you posted.