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very well said LJF,sorry for pissing on anyone corn flakes here...one mans oppion...

humanoid wrote:very well said LJF,sorry for pissing on anyone corn flakes here...one mans oppion...

My corn flakes are fine. There are times I feel the same way about the newer version, but it's not worth it. If I listen to them like it's a new band I find I don't judge as much.

jimmydeviljames wrote:It sure as fuck isn't you...
that was arranged by a monkey surely..

TrevorAyer wrote:try some of this maaaaaaannnnnn!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XRHkMNE-4g[/youtube]

they still got the magic .. they just don't know what to do with it anymore .. they need a good producer to mix them up a bit .. woo woo woo

awww so nice .. at 400 hits in 4 days, i think i might be on to something ..

I like the new stuff to be honest. Both Porno for Pyros albums were much better than Strays and Eric had nothing to do with those. Help Wanted was just boring IMO. If your not looking forward to buying the new album then just don't buy it. I'm looking forward to it but I know that if it is a great album all credit will go to Dave Sitek and not the other 3 which is a sad thing really.

danhans wrote:I like the new stuff to be honest. Both Porno for Pyros albums were much better than Strays and Eric had nothing to do with those. Help Wanted was just boring IMO. If your not looking forward to buying the new album then just don't buy it. I'm looking forward to it but I know that if it is a great album all credit will go to Dave Sitek and not the other 3 which is a sad thing really.

I thought Help Wanted was a great CD. I enjoy what EA does. Also thought deconstruction was excellent. Eric also had nothing to do with Strays so I'm not understanding the comparison there. He had nothing to do with any PFP and also nothing to do with Strays.

The comparison was although strays was the a big disappointment people seem to be blaming the fact that the reason it was that way is because Eric wasn't involved and that the other 3 arnt able to write a descent album without him. I pointed out PFP because I do believe that thats proof that Eric isnt the be all and end all of creativeness. Bit of a loose point I suppose. I do agree with you with Deconstruction, that album was great and its a shame that there wasnt more.

danhans wrote:The comparison was although strays was the a big disappointment people seem to be blaming the fact that the reason it was that way is because Eric wasn't involved and that the other 3 arnt able to write a descent album without him. I pointed out PFP because I do believe that thats proof that Eric isnt the be all and end all of creativeness. Bit of a loose point I suppose. I do agree with you with Deconstruction, that album was great and its a shame that there wasnt more.

Aside from EA not being involved, a lot of people blamed Ezrin for Strays. That album had a lot going against it, and Ezrin not caring about JA's legacy didn't help matters at all. There are some good songs on it, songs that maybe haven't lived up to their potential for a myriad of reasons. Chaney is a great bass player, but it seems to be universally understood that Ezrin had a huge hand in getting Martyn unceremoniously fired - and I think Strays suffered from it. But who knows.

Strays also had the problem that it was going to be compared to Ritual and NS. The Great Escape Artist will get those comparisons, especially by longtime fans, but it will also be compared to Strays - and from based on what little we've heard, I think it definitely has the potential to easily surpass that album.

danhans wrote:The comparison was although strays was the a big disappointment people seem to be blaming the fact that the reason it was that way is because Eric wasn't involved and that the other 3 arnt able to write a descent album without him. I pointed out PFP because I do believe that thats proof that Eric isnt the be all and end all of creativeness. Bit of a loose point I suppose. I do agree with you with Deconstruction, that album was great and its a shame that there wasnt more.

Now I get the comparison. I agree he isn't everything behind why Jane's was good. I would say the main reason would be time. Their lives are just so different now, could you imagine whores being written now, not a chance. But I would say that without him their sound should be expected to be different.

if whores came out today it would still tear shit up .. NOT the trent version tho .. I am a huge fan of the kettle whistle version before they cleaned up all the tape distortion ... the one on mountain songs ..

psi com was fucking spot on .. eric joined at the end but he wasnt a part of the recordings or writing .. pfp.. banyan .. spread .. polar bear .. ALL GREAT RECORDS .. perry should sing la sirena .. daves whores at the end of whores .. xiola .. and at least 6 pfp tunes with janes.inc

i checked out the flac premix strays record mike posted .. and i definately hear the record a little different .. i conclude that strays suffered from shortening all the songs and not allowing any room to breathe in the songs .. AND .. daves guitar full on loud the whole record ... i am guessing that was some production decision or marketing or some bullll shit like that .. i still think JUST BECAUSE should be performed as the been caught stealing remake it was intended as .. acoustic and clean guitars .. .. make it sound a lot like been caught .. its got the same bass line grove .. it would be a pop masterpiece .. er sumthin .. but daves pretty summertime rolls kinda noodling was pretty much gone and it was replaced by these horrid motley crue riffs .. such a huge contrast from the just fantastic guitar work he did on the spread record .. i think if this was the ritual days .. they would have stopped the sessions like they did on ritual .. and came back later and tried again and done it right .. also missing was anything resembling an aint no right, no ones leaving, three days, mountain song, whores, famous pull on 2 frets signature bass line .. or anything as simple and pretty as a summertime or i would for you bass driven ballad ..

i would agree that the group should still be called janes addiction tho .. its still 3 members and if pink floyd can do it than its ok if janes does too .. the new record is sounding short like strays .. songs are too compact and formulaic .. some good ideas but i will definately sound like the comercial janes and not the janes of old .. unless they trash it and jam out the songs a little longer before they hit record again .. so i remember reading that ritual was being recorded but then it took like a lot of years before it was done .. they started and stopped with that record and the result was worth it .. i think they should take these new good ideas and simmer them a little longer and give us the great record we all want .. they are adding back in daves nice noodling tho and that is a welcome return for sure even if the songs are way too short

I've only been a fan since 2003, but I know the old stuff well now. They have changed a lot since the original albums, but they're still better than most of the crap out there now!