Summertime Rolls Vs Walk on the Wild Side

[Mescal]

Has anyone noticed that the bassline to Summertime rolls shows resemblances to the bassline to Walk on the Wild side?

They both use the, eeuuhhmm, I don't know the musical terms in English, a major chord progression; where Eric as well as the bassist of Lou reed only play the the first and last note of the chord. That gives it this melancholic feel.

[helicine]

There might be some similarities, but I don't think it is a direct knock off.

However, the first thing that came into mind when reading the subject was that the two songs would make a great DJ mash-up/mix. Now that would be awesome

[intertwoven]

sorta related, today I realized the live intro to Had a Dad is basically somewhat of a Led Zeppelin cover, sounding a lot like an instrumental on Coda.

[shadow]

what a shame! I've never listening to the album CODA and i'd like to know what is the instrumental you mentioned, just to comparate the two track via you tube. Deny the Led Zeppelin influence on Jane's Addiction it would be like to support an euphemism so what is most interesting about it, is that Jane's never really traspose the led zeppelin musical style on their sound! The appeal it's the only thing of Led Zepp we can hear on their song, and not the rest. Many groups in the late 80s were totally Led Zeppelin clones but while bands like Badlands emulating them to remembered the glorious of this name Jane's Addiction celebrated themselves giving only the feeling of hearing something like another. This was a completely different approach leading the band on the most alternative path we had between eighties and ninenties. Of course, band such like Sonic Youth or Dinosaur Junior were very alternative, but they were on this way starting by something was already alternative as Velvet underground were as well: Jane's Addiction sounded like an "important classic rock band" but they weren't.

About walk on the Wild side vs Summertime rolls, i can't hear clearly some similarities, i don't know what eeuuhhmm is. What i have in my opinion is that the key and cadency too are different. Probably both Eric and Lou bassist plays the first and the last note of their respective chord but while the first sound like this: dum dum, dum dum ... dum dum; the second sound like this: dum . . . dum dum; where the dots are the breaks and comma is virtual or half note. About Summertime's melancholic feelings it's possibile to say that song move along the minor chords progression (as you know minor look like sad, major look like happy or quite happy) instead Walk on the wild side sounds less sad than Summertime rolls. I could be wrong but somehow this kind of discussion are really interesting for what it's possible to know with the background knowledge anyone has.

[shadow]

ok guys....let me confirm to you just one thing....

http://ezinearticles.com/?Guitar-Music- ... id=1022982

where you can read

The famous guitar intro to Brown Eyed Girl by Van Morrison is a great song example of playing a major scale melody harmonized in thirds. "Walk on the Wild Side" by Lou Reed is a song that uses this same technique on the bass guitar. Many other famous songs have prominent guitar intros, riffs or solos that use third intervals. Some good examples are listed below

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[intertwoven]

here's the Zep song I was talking about.. what do you guys think? While it's not spot on to what Jane's did, I think it's safe to say this song was inspiration for Perk's beat.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnZoL-uddG0[/youtube]

but yeah, I always liked that Had a Dad intro.. too bad they don't seem to play it anymore.

[Mike]

Has anyone noticed that the bassline to Summertime rolls shows resemblances to the bassline to Walk on the Wild side?

They both use the, eeuuhhmm, I don't know the musical terms in English, a major chord progression; where Eric as well as the bassist of Lou reed only play the the first and last note of the chord. That gives it this melancholic feel.

I don't really hear it when I do comparative listening.
Well maybe a little if what you're referring to is the scale?

sorta related, today I realized the live intro to Had a Dad is basically somewhat of a Led Zeppelin cover, sounding a lot like an instrumental on Coda.

I never noticed it before and don't really hear it.

Another one I can remember folks talking about is Cream's I'm So Glad and how Dave stole the intro for Ocean size from it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3GIQ86eu6c[/youtube]

I don't really hear that one either and I think when we discussed this previously we discovered that Perry came up with that part.

[Mescal]

Well, I definitely hear the similarity between I'm So Glad and Ocean Size! You don't? That's just denial

Well, I'm a bass player. So sometimes I try to play other people's basslines, I prefer to play my own, but still.

I would play walk on the wild side like this:

G---9---
D--------
A--------
E---8---

And Summertime like this:

G-----10---
D--------
A---------
E---9----

Ok, so that would only be the first chord, but you get the picture.

I always thought it sounded a bit strange playing just these notes together. Strange at first hearing, but great in the overall picture. So, I always thought it was very clever to have come up with that + I don't really come across the combination of just these two notes. And I know; for Walk I would play the two notes together as for Summer play them after one another.

I didn't say Eric stole Walk's bassline, but he might have thought it was a good idea playing these two notes together after hearing Walk's bassline. And I stress might.

When I hear something clever in someone else's basslines, I try to incorporate (steal ) that idea into one of my own bass lines.

Everybody has to get their ideas somewhere ....

[shadow]

here's the Zep song I was talking about.. what do you guys think? While it's not spot on to what Jane's did, I think it's safe to say this song was inspiration for Perk's beat.
.

I agree. The beat drum remind me to Had a dad and aerosmith's walk this way too. what a surprise! I'm not a Cream estimator so i've never heard this intro and we must admit that it's really close to Ocean size instrumental opening guitar part