1986 Recordings

[Mike]

Bill's list has only two entries for 1986.

See Bill's list in its entirety here:

http://forums.janesaddiction.org/viewto ... =35&t=1389

The two shows Bill lists are:

09/21/86 LA Street Scene: Los Angeles, CA
analog audience
--------------------------------------------------------------
11/23/86 Pyramid Club: Los Angeles, CA
SBD -> cassette

In our "Tour Dates" section we reference thirteen recordings.
Most of these thirteen dates are shows but a couple of the entries stem from studio time, home demos, etc.

The thirteen entries with recordings attributed to them are as follows:

01/10/1986 - Black Radio Club, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=407

01/??/1986 - Radio Tokyo, Venice, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=768

02/??/1986 - Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=770

03/2?/1986 - Unknown Venue, Orange, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=726

03/??/1986 - Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... ourID=1496

08/28/1986 - Roxy Theatre, West Hollywood, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=410

08/??/1986 - KXLU Loyola Marymount College Radio, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=729

08/??/1986 - The Co Co Club, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=769

09/21/1986 - L.A. Street Scene, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=411

10/01/1986 - Club Lingerie, Hollywood, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=412

11/13/1986 - The Pyramid, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=415

12/15/1986 - KXLU Loyola Marymount College Radio, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=612

12/19/1986 - Lhasa Club, Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=417

Let me please say two things before we go any further.

1.) I am not in possession of all of the above recordings.
2.) I know some of the info above is incorrect.
Correcting what's wrong is the purpose of this section.

If you have any info on any of these recordings please post your info in this thread.
If you have a correction please post that in this thread too.

Please don't worry about hurting anyone's feelings in this thread / section either.

Once again the purpose of this section is to correct misinformation and add to our database.

Your help is encouraged and appreciated.

[intertwoven]

02/??/1986 - Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=770

This is actually a Jane's Rehearsal with Ed Dobrydnio on guitar and Matt Chaikin on drums. The recording has been passed around, thus the listing here. The recording is roughly 18 minutes long.

This is a "holy grail" type recording for me, and I know a fair amount about it. First of all, it's not Ed and Matt. It's Stephen and Dave. The full tape is 60 minutes (only 18 have been "leaked" among fans), and some songs feature no guitar, just Perry and Eric teaching Stephen the songs. I think that's why they bothered taping the rehearsal, so Stephen could listen back. It's a safe bet the location is the Wilton House, eh? As for gen, well, Stephen's master > friend of the band > fan who got ahold of it > fan who digitalized it.. I guess that makes the circulated recording 3rd gen. Recording equipment, probably just a boombox-type stereo in the room recording onto cassette.

[intertwoven]

03/2?/1986 - Unknown Venue, Orange, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=726

This show took place between 3/21/86 and 3/29/86 and would have been Dave Navarro and Steve Perkins' second show as members of Jane's Addiction (thanks go out to Gavin B for that).

Ha, the mythical "Top 40 Club" show. It kinda bugs me that I'm the source for this (btw, I'd prefer being credited to somediverswhistle.com if it's all the same). I think Mike has brought the legitimacy of this show into question, and I won't argue it. A guy told me about it once and I believed him. But who knows, his memory might've gotten it confused. If there's no other somewhat-reliable source for this, I'd just assume remove it from the listing. And I've never heard of any recording existing of this show. I'd venture that it was confused for another early Janes show (Raji's 4/86?) or another show in Orange (such as 3/29/87 Goodies).

[intertwoven]

03/??/1986 - Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... ourID=1496

Slow Diver's rehearsal.

Again, probably a boombox in the middle of the Wilton House garage or living room.. Perry and Dave working on a new song. There's a girl there who Perry talks with at one point.. doesn't really sound like Casey.. maybe Jane? Xiola? Again, circulated recording probably 3rd gen.

[Mike]

Awesome info interwoven and exactly the kind of stuff I'm hoping this section will continue to generate.

I will begin making corrections based on your info shortly.

I do have a question or two and something else I'd like to submit for scrutiny.

Here's the part for scrutiny.

Audio:

02-??-86 'slow divers' rehearsal at Perry's house ANA-AUD 15m
03-??-86 Demos w/ Jane's first guitarist ANA-SBD 20m
03-??-86 Rehearsal hollywood CA ANA-AUD 60m
??-??-86 Black Radio ANA-AUD 25m
?-??-86 June Street Studio Demos ANA-SBD 50m
??-??-86 Acoustic 'Kettle Whistle' Demo ANA-SBD 05m
??-??-86 Co Co Club Los Angeles, CA ANA-AUD 25m
01-10-86 Black Radio Club Los Angeles, CA ANA-AUD 37m
03-29-86 Raji's Hollywood, CA ANA-SBD 35m
08-01-86 Black Radio Club Los Angeles, CA ANA-AUD ??m
08-??-86 KXLU- Loyola Marymount Los Angeles, CA ANA- FM 20m
08-??-86 KXLU- Loyola Marymount Los Angeles, CA ANA- FM 06m
08-28-86 The Roxy Los Angeles, CA ANA-AUD 40m
09-21-86 LA Street Scene Los Angeles, CA ANA-AUD 30m
10-01-86 Club Lingerie Hollywood, CA ANA-SBD 35m
11-08-86 Scream Los Angeles, CA ANA-SBD ??m
11-13-86 Pyramid Club Hollywood, CA ANA-SBD 55m
11-13-86 Pyramid Club Hollywood, CA ANA-SBD 50m
12-15-86 KXLU- Loyola Marymount Los Angeles, CA ANA- FM 20m
12-19-86 Lhasa Club Hollywood, CA ANA-SBD 40m

Video:

01-10-86 Black Radio Club Los Angeles, CA AUD 37m
08-28-86 The Roxy Los Angeles, CA AUD 40m

That list was pilfered using archive.org

You can visit it here:

http://web.archive.org/web/200202030232 ... index.html

I'm sure you're very familiar with it seeing as you're one of the dozen or so credited with creating it.

There's lots of good info on that list but just like everything else it needs some tlc.
It's eight years old after all.

Questions forthcoming.
I'm going to get the three you supplied info on updated first though.

Thanks again!

[helicine]

03/2?/1986 - Unknown Venue, Orange, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=726

This show took place between 3/21/86 and 3/29/86 and would have been Dave Navarro and Steve Perkins' second show as members of Jane's Addiction (thanks go out to Gavin B for that).

Ha, the mythical "Top 40 Club" show. It kinda bugs me that I'm the source for this (btw, I'd prefer being credited to somediverswhistle.com if it's all the same). I think Mike has brought the legitimacy of this show into question, and I won't argue it. A guy told me about it once and I believed him. But who knows, his memory might've gotten it confused. If there's no other somewhat-reliable source for this, I'd just assume remove it from the listing. And I've never heard of any recording existing of this show. I'd venture that it was confused for another early Janes show (Raji's 4/86?) or another show in Orange (such as 3/29/87 Goodies).

My memory is a little hazy, but I think you got "auxiliary" credit on that while I was trying to clean up the multiple lists that were going around for all the live shows JA did. So that may go all the way back to before you registered SDW :hehe:

I do know that we've come a long way since those days

[Charles]

Seems as if poeple around here have more important info and or a more true passion for the band than over at Xioa.org....

[Charles]

02/??/1986 - Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=770

This is actually a Jane's Rehearsal with Ed Dobrydnio on guitar and Matt Chaikin on drums. The recording has been passed around, thus the listing here. The recording is roughly 18 minutes long.

This is a "holy grail" type recording for me, and I know a fair amount about it. First of all, it's not Ed and Matt. It's Stephen and Dave. The full tape is 60 minutes (only 18 have been "leaked" among fans), and some songs feature no guitar, just Perry and Eric teaching Stephen the songs. I think that's why they bothered taping the rehearsal, so Stephen could listen back. It's a safe bet the location is the Wilton House, eh? As for gen, well, Stephen's master > friend of the band > fan who got ahold of it > fan who digitalized it.. I guess that makes the circulated recording 3rd gen. Recording equipment, probably just a boombox-type stereo in the room recording onto cassette.

60min of unheard footage??

[Charles]

Bill's list has only two entries for 1986.

See Bill's list in its entirety here:

http://forums.janesaddiction.org/viewto ... =35&t=1389

The two shows Bill lists are:

09/21/86 LA Street Scene: Los Angeles, CA
analog audience
--------------------------------------------------------------
11/23/86 Pyramid Club: Los Angeles, CA
SBD -> cassette

In our "Tour Dates" section we reference thirteen recordings.
Most of these thirteen dates are shows but a couple of the entries stem from studio time, home demos, etc.

The thirteen entries with recordings attributed to them are as follows:

01/10/1986 - Black Radio Club, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=407

01/??/1986 - Radio Tokyo, Venice, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=768

02/??/1986 - Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=770

03/2?/1986 - Unknown Venue, Orange, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=726

03/??/1986 - Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... ourID=1496

08/28/1986 - Roxy Theatre, West Hollywood, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=410

08/??/1986 - KXLU Loyola Marymount College Radio, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=729

08/??/1986 - The Co Co Club, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=769

09/21/1986 - L.A. Street Scene, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=411

10/01/1986 - Club Lingerie, Hollywood, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=412

11/13/1986 - The Pyramid, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=415

12/15/1986 - KXLU Loyola Marymount College Radio, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=612

12/19/1986 - Lhasa Club, Hollywood, Los Angeles, CA
http://janesaddiction.org/tour/tour_det ... tourID=417

Let me please say two things before we go any further.

1.) I am not in possession of all of the above recordings.
2.) I know some of the info above is incorrect.
Correcting what's wrong is the purpose of this section.

If you have any info on any of these recordings please post your info in this thread.
If you have a correction please post that in this thread too.

Please don't worry about hurting anyone's feelings in this thread / section either.

Once again the purpose of this section is to correct misinformation and add to our database.

Your help is encouraged and appreciated.

11/13/86 its mentioned that Daves 4 track is much higher in quality, when in fact its much worst sounding than the CD bootleg versions. Just an FYI.

[Mike]

I started updating some shows the day before yesterday with the info I gathered from this thread.

Yesterday stopped me in my tracks but before I go any further I wanted to let you guys know that helicine and I are discussing implementing some bells and whistles that should make sorting the listing a whole new ballgame.

Right now you can only sort out the cancelled shows.
What we're talking about doing is making it much more sortable.

For example we cold have categories for the following:

Shows
Studio
Rehearsal
TV

You get the point I'm sure.

I've mentioned my fondness for this Zeppelin site countless times before:

http://www.royal-orleans.com/

I have blatantly stolen some of the ideas for our forum from there.

This is another Zeppelin site I like to visit:

http://www.ledzeppelin-reference.com/

If you checkout that link it will give you some idea of the things that are possible.
I'm not saying we're going to steal what they have there lock, stock, and barrel but some of their ideas jive with what helicine and I think will be good with the site.

Jane's after all have been compared to the Zeps for like forever.
They may as well have a site as good or better than the Zeps.